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upier · Nov 12, 2008, 10:51 AM // 10:51

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From the first page;

Ohh, ok.

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Originally Posted by BlueNovember

But yes, it sounds like other things are being buffed also.

That's the thing I am most interested in.
Because if the fastest way still takes as long as HFFing did - then the change doesn't bring anything new. It just replaces one kind of grind with another.

Cobalt · Nov 12, 2008, 01:09 PM // 13:09

I thought the change was they are going to make rep easier to get by making what we had the during the "extreme" weekend which I believe doubles rep gain, a permanent fixture in the game.

I did not think they were going to do through the trouble of nerfing some rep quests.

Chieftain Heavyhand · Nov 12, 2008, 01:47 PM // 13:47

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I did not think they were going to do through the trouble of nerfing some rep quests.

Why wouldn't they it has never stopped them before.

Instead of fixing things like clipping on certain professions, or extra content they devote loads of time to nerfing things.

I really hope this new change is something great and I'm just being my paranoid self. Anet has come out with some great additions over the years but they have also never hesitated to wail away with the nerf bat.

Tenebrae · Nov 13, 2008, 11:35 AM // 11:35

Gaining factions thru killing and completing elite missions of each side ( Urgoz and Kanaxai ) would be awesome too .... and ofc , challenge missions should get a boost too

MStarfire · Nov 13, 2008, 04:39 PM // 16:39

Or, you know, make the quest non-repeatable.

I hate HFFF, but not because I think nobody should be able to do it. I just think it's lame and boring. I do not think it should be nerfed, I think the title and methods to acquire it should be adjusted to discourage such mindless, repetitive tasks.

germanturkey · Nov 13, 2008, 05:43 PM // 17:43

^^ if they made it non-repeatable, it would limit faction gain to AB, which would piss off people who don't like to pvp, and just going out and killing folk, which is almost as mindless and boring as hfff, not to mention the rate of faction gain is much less.

MisterB · Nov 13, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53

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^^ if they made it non-repeatable, it would limit faction gain to AB, which would piss off people who don't like to pvp, and just going out and killing folk, which is almost as mindless and boring as hfff, not to mention the rate of faction gain is much less.

There are other repeatable quests. Before people were doing Echovald, they did Duel of the Houses, or the Luxon Supply Run. Those two have been adjusted several times. Each side has 5 quests, if I recall correctly.

It's possible that HFFF will just be less efficient than other means of acquiring faction, or at least that is what I gather from Linsey's hints.

cognophile · Nov 13, 2008, 06:40 PM // 18:40

I started doing HFFF a few months ago, as a way to gain both kurzick faction and gold, to help with maxing out those final few grindy (cash/time consuming) titles for GWAMM.

At this point, I have kurzick rank 11, and look at the coming HFFF nerf with some apprehension. I've figured out how to run HFFF without getting carpal tunnel, and am able to halfway watch TV while doing it. It's also fun to socialize a bit with guildies while running HFFF, so it's not a bad thing from that perspective. On the other hand, I planned to basically quit HFFF upon reaching r12 anyway, and would welcome faster methods for accumulating kurzick faction.

I think balancing the kurzick and luxon titles will have an overall beneficial effect on the game. HFFF is the main reason I chose the kurzick side, and it's apparent that I'm not alone in that choice. Based on the delays I've seen getting into AB from the kurzick side, it's apparent that the game's kurzick population must be much higher than that on the luxon side (don't remember any such delays back when I was a luxon).

It will be interesting to see what ANET does to the kurzick and luxon titles. Maybe maxing the luxon title will now also become a viable option.

Shadowmoon · Nov 13, 2008, 07:20 PM // 19:20

i dunno why i even read this thread, people still believe the hff will still exist after today or tomarrows update. it has been said that it is getting changed because it easily bottable, meaning that it will be nerfed. That does not mean that it will give less faction than other activities, when your a bot you don't care if what u are doin isn't the best, it that you still get gains from doin it because normally you would get nothing without the bot.
You can run a bot that farms 1k a hour, and still profitable compared to not running a bot and getting 0 a hour. The hff has to be removed because even if it gave only 1 faction a run, it still be worth botting.

My guess on nerf, quest updates after KILLING the luxons that spawn in those locations, not just walking over them.

Jessyi · Nov 13, 2008, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon

My guess on nerf, quest updates after KILLING the luxons that spawn in those locations, not just walking over them.

This was my guess as well. Shame too...I won't be running my three accts until a workaround is found.